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  1. Daniel Post Senning

    While they say all press is good publicity as long as they spell your name right, I am curious if this might not come around to hurt Kanye. At the same time it might serve to solidify his credibility as an agitator and provocateur. ???

  2. Joyce

    The President of the United States of America deserves the utmost respect from everyone but especially from the Congress of the same United States. This guy, Joe Wilson, is shockingly rude, so rude that he should be removed from office. He owes the American public an apology as well as the joint houses of Congress. I voted for someone else in the election and feel all of our Presidents deserve respect from all citizens regardless of personal feelings about their politics.

    Hopefully the Congress will reprimand and censure this man who, if he cannot contain his outbursts, should not be in the office of Representative.

    • Amanda

      I agree that Congressman Wilson’s outburst was not appropriate. But why the outrage now? Why did no one care when the shoe was on the other foot and George Bush was being booed and shouted at during a speech he gave to Congress? We should be asking about the real problem of today’s culture; situational manners. Why is bad behavior tolerated by some and not others?

  3. Kaye Simonetta

    I can’t remember a week when we’ve had so many public examples of disrespectul behavior from what should be bona-fide adults. To call our President a liar in the House of Representatives is reprehensible. To take the microphone and publicly humiliate an award winner on national TV–almost surreal. And Serena Williams, a stellar athlete with a good reputation, making threats against an umpire–just unbelievable! Perhaps all of this bad behavior will bring more focus on the importance of good manners. I certainly hope so!

  4. Serena was both rude and arrogant. What she said was worth two points not one. If John McEnroe hasn’t apologized for being rude on the courts of yesteryear, he should, because Serena is saying she can because he could.

    What Mr. West did was uncalled for. The referees should have come in immediately. You could tell it hurt her feelings. Not good.

    Congressman Wilson (this is his title, by the way, not Joe (you Lie) Wilson, said it from his heart after President Obama made a couple of false statements about the health bill. He, by the way, apologized, more than once. Where is the referee for the President? Do we sit there and take it even though it’s not true?

  5. Christopher Sosnay

    I feel that Rep. Wilson’s comment/outburst is nothing out of the ordinary. If you agree or disagree with the President, it shows that both sides are passionate about this debate. Although the US Congress is not Parliament of England, it is common practice there to heckle the opposition, and even the Prime Minister when addressing the entire body. I encourage you to watch the Prime Minister’s Questions on C-Span2 on Sunday evenings. Rep. Wilson did send a formal apology to both the President and Vice President.

  6. The shockingly bad display of manners during this past week has left me shaking my head. The outburst by the Representative from South Carolina was an embarassment to the nation. As for Ms. Williams and Mr. West (who it now appears had been drinking to excess), I can only wonder that many people in this country hold these persons in high regard. That anyone finds their behavior acceptible is damning of our society.

  7. Public Debate

    Quick comment on Kanye: He’s done this kind of thing before. This shouldn’t come as a surprise. The guy has a near-fetish for publicity, especially if it involves an outburst on national TV.

    As for Joe Wilson, this isn’t Parliament, Mr. Atkins. I would love it if we had as much spirited debate on the floor of Congress as the British do in Parliament, but we all know that kind of outburst is a serious breach of protocol, regardless of whether it came from Congressman Wilson’s “heart,” as you commented. Somehow several hundred other people in the room managed to control their hearts, as any professional adult should be able to do in that setting. Let us not forget how much loud outbursts have been used, tactically, as a tool for disrupting public debate in recent months, almost entirely by the right.

    As for Serena, she blew it. No question. It’s a shame. She should apologize and probably will.

    Somehow I can’t help but find it funny, though, that in tennis–surely not as important as even the tiniest part of the health care debate–a person can be fined over 10,000 dollars for swearing at someone, but the president can be yelled at and not only does very little happen, but Congressman Wilson is “swamped” with campaign contributions. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6834315.ece

    Let’s remember that one of these acts was political, one was about celebrity, and one was committed by an athlete completely loaded with endorphins. Out of everyone, I’d give Serena the biggest break–yet still agree that an apology is in order.

  8. Angie

    I’m surprised that Joe Wilson isn’t #1 on the rude scale–but I’m glad he’s a close 2nd. But let’s not forget that Dick Cheney got away with spouting out the F-word on the Senate floor.The ruling memebers of our goverment should be held to a higher level than sports and show business celebreties. This hardly lets Kayne and Serena Williams off the hook though.

    Since certain rap fans felt that Kayne was “too soft’ and not “gangsta” enough, I suppose he wanted to be embraced by those who use to criticize him. Now he’s gtetting more criticism than ever. A lesson learned that no matter how people my put you down at 1st, we always respect a person who is strong enough to be himself.

    Serena unfortunately seems to be repeating how her father used to act when he toured with her and her sister. Another adult figure should have taught her some humility a long time ago. That’s just as important as winning a championship.

  9. Pat McGraw

    In today’s world of “say and do as you please” the events of the past week have managed to surpass rudeness to a new level. Congressman Wilson’s remark was not appropriate during the President’s speech–if he had a comment to make, he should have waited until the ending of the speech–impassioned or not, there is a time and a place for everything. However, to his credit, he apologized for his actions in a sincere manner. Mr. West, on the other hand, showed very poor manners and poor taste while also showing a lousy attitude towards a person who didn’t do anything but win an award. Being inebriated is no excuse for venting about the winner not being his choice, because, frankly, no one cares. Plus, “Tweeting”one’s apology doesn’t come close to apologizing. As far as Ms. Williams use of “colorful metaphors” to show her dismay and rants against a tennis official, well, I’m sorry but grow up. As a sports figure, one would think, self respect and self image would be more important to show one’s fans then attempting to emulate a frustrated 5 year old. Having good manners used to mean something, now it appears to not matter at all. Anyone, who does something in a rude and ungracious manner that leaves a bad taste in the mouth, should be feeling guilt–but, since these things keep happening, I believe that feeling is just being ignored.

  10. The first two words that come to mind are Respect and Civility.

    Respect to the President of the United States is most important and so is respect to oneself. An unfavorable standard is being shown here.The trickle down effect of if he can dis the president than I can do the same to anyone and get away with it.

    Kanye West was out of line by disrespecting the award recipient,the academy and audience.If anything his fans should think twice about buying his works.

    Serena Williams certainly didn’t show any respect for the judge’s call nor sportsmanship to her opponent.

    These behaviors should make everyone look at themselves and remember to be civil at all times and respect others.

  11. I think that all three lack the simple graces that we all should have, and one would have expected to have been taught at a younger age.

    I wonder how much of this type of behavior is a direct effect of the media and all those who treat these people as if they are so much more enlighted than the rest of us by way of their social, political, or athletic positions.

    These people are not role models, and I do hope that the events of the last week make parents across America have their heads swivel and use this as a moment to teach your children proper decorum, and that just because you can say or do something, doesn’t mean that you should.

    It all comes back to taking personal responsibility for one’s own actions, be they verbal, or physical. Whatever happened to that?

  12. Ms. Alice Thornton

    While the behavior neither Mr. West nor Ms. Williams is excusable one must remember that contemporary sports and entertainment is just that–sports and entertainment. However, the behavior of Mr. Wilson is reprehensible. Many people consider the United States Capital to be sacred, and in sacred spaces one behaves with decorum. In addition, in comparison to Mr. West and Ms. Williams, Mr. Wilson’s age and occupation indicates that he should know better. Worse, Mr. Wilson showed great disrespect for the office of the President of the United States and, therefore, complete disdain for our country. In my opinion, he trampled on our flag and spit in the eye of the eagle.

    • Amanda

      A bit harsh. The US Capitol is sacred, I’ve been there. If we are all going to be sanctimonious about what is said there, again I ask, why are you not outraged about the outright disdain shown toward the American people by the guy at the podium. Sacred is sacred. Sacred for all, not just the one you don’t like.

  13. Ms Spanish

    As Angie, I’m surprised Mr Wilson isnt’t the number one in the poll. I think that what Kanye West did is rude and overall heartless, but what Joe did, is the maximum of etiquette blunders.

    About Serena, well, I guess we should understand that she was in a very stressful moment and sometimes you don’t measure your words (it also happens to all of us when arguing with our parter/siblings/parents… -It’s just that she’s so arrogant that she didn’t explain herself and try to apologize afterwards. And unfortunately that goes with the personality; every person is unique and worthy of respect. Besides, that’s where we make the difference. Can you imagine all the people in the world being exactly the same? No one would say that you are polite or kind or anything.

    BUT in Joe’s defense, I must say, that all those comments that I have been listening and reading about racism I think are nonsense. I really think he would have acted exactly the same way no matter his color. It is about being in disagreement with him, not about his color at all.

    And to finish: etiquette is also about being understanding with other faults. Kanye’s behaviour hasn’t got excuse, but Serena and Wilson acted on impulse (altough being a diplomatic you should be able to control this). That said, I think the best is to forget about it and to focus in our good manners, not in other’s.

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